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Author:  rednjguyx [ Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Save Kim-a-thon
Starting August 10 for twelve days, we are going to start a drive to save Kim. I want no excuses...we must try to say her.


Phase 1 of the Kim-a-thon: This is the email phase...I want every member to an individual contact of the Walt Disney Company an email.

The link is http://www.savedisneyshows.org/kp/email/.

Example: one email a day to say "Anne Sweeney", and just "Anne Sweeney.
Then, one email a day to say "Rich Ross", and just "Rich Ross".

There are twenty contact so I expect twenty emails a day for all of the members.

Phase 1a: No surprise...one letter or fax to the Walt Disney Company per day.

Phase 2: This is the petition stage...Listen up carefully...
The Save Disney Shows gang...(OKAY Adam & Greg) are collect names for a petition to send out to Disney on August 22 (Day 12). To participate in this petition you must send an email to petition@savedisneyshows.org . Adam & Greg will collect your name from the email...put it on a list and attach a copy of your email to the list...

Here's an example...

Dear Walt Disney Company,

For three years, I have enjoyed the "Kim Possible" program on Disney Channel. It saddens me to find out that it was coming to an abrupt end. I wish to see another of "Kim Possible."

I'm giving Greg Isaac (or Adam) permission to sign me to a petition in hopes to able to see another wonderful season of "Kim Possible." Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Red

This will allow international fans to participate in this petition with no additional mailing charges. I expect everyone to put their name to the petition and tell their friends to email as well.

August could be a very valuable month in the fight to save Kim

Now spread the word...go to all forums and blogs and tell everyone about the Kim-a-thon immediately. Don't waste time.
Author:  Anitrain [ Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:50 pm ]
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I made this an Announcement and fixed the code on the email address. Hope you don't mind. Now to go out and spread the word!
Author:  ahwm [ Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:57 pm ]
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RSS feed updated... Will send out SKP Newsletter tomorrow about this... :D
Author:  Anitrain [ Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:11 pm ]
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http://savedisneyshows.org/kp/day/kim-a-thon.html

^Official Website for the Save Kim-a-thon. :D

You can also use http://savekp.com to link directly to that page.

http://savekp.org still points to kp.savedisneyshows.org however.
Author:  RiPPy [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:46 am ]
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so adam and greg are sending out 1 each? or together 1?
Author:  rednjguyx [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:29 pm ]
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Together I guess...just send an email RufusPufus...and get a friend to do the same!
Author:  RiPPy [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:09 pm ]
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okay i guess.
Author:  Anitrain [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:18 pm ]
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rednjguyx wrote:
Together I guess...just send an email RufusPufus...and get a friend to do the same!


The petition@savedisneyshows.org address is currently set up to forward to me, so I have a feeling I'll be the one doing all the printing and adding to list... :D BTW, I've already gotten two signatures.
Author:  rednjguyx [ Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:59 pm ]
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Anitrain wrote:
I've already gotten two signatures.


Who are the two signatures from Adam Humphrey and Gregory Isaac...lol
:lol:

[hide=Greg&Adam]I hope I spelled the names right.[/hide]
Author:  ahwm [ Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:04 pm ]
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rednjguyx wrote:
Anitrain wrote:
I've already gotten two signatures.


Who are the two signatures from Adam Humphrey and Gregory Isaac...lol
:lol:

[hide=Greg&Adam]I hope I spelled the names right.[/hide]


[hide=rednjguyx]You were close on mine.. ;) You switched a couple of letters and left another one off, but don't worry about it.. it's spelled wrong in the phone book a lot too :lol: [/hide]

It's not from me.. :D
Author:  Alexander [ Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:59 pm ]
Post subject:  SKAT: Observations
Heh, would post this in another thread, but I want to garner some notice. Now note I have a tendency toward bigmouthosity and longwindedness (just to use a made-up word and a word that sounds made-up), so you might want to get a snack or something. Alright, here goes.

Alas, I was unaware of this effort (and, in fact, unaware of the pending/existing cancellation of the show) until earlier today (July 30, 2005 still in this time zone), and hence was unable to contribute to earlier efforts. I feel a need to comment on the methods employed and what I believe will come of them.

1) Digital Domain
a) e-mails: Corporations tend to ignore emails. When they get a lot on one topic, they may take notice, but it's hit-or-miss there.
b) online petition: Online petitions in general get ignored: Pen-and-paper ones are much preferable. However, coordinating these on-line requires fore-planning and time, the latter of which we are short of at the moment. So realize, this won't do much on its own.

2) Paper Domain
a) letters: Ah, the good stuff. While geographical positioning, as has been pointed out elsewhere, prevents the arrival of a large number of letters at the same time, many people sending one letter a day to a different person each day over 12 days creates a stream of letters if enough people are involved. And, since spam generally doesn't come signed, sealed, and delivered, they garner a lot more attention. And I mean a lot. Even a phone call doesn't have the impact a letter can. This should be pushed as one of the primary means of protest/campaigning as much as possible.
b) Fax: Quicker, so they can be coordinated, but pair this with the fact that spam CAN come by fax easily, and it comes to about the same as letters, unless a truly huge number of people send them on the same day.
c) Petition: Not part of this particular effort due to time constraints.

3) Phone calls: These can have an impact, but they have to be done properly. A group called starmen.net did a particularly good phone campaign for bringing the video game Mother 1+2 to America. It hasn't worked yet, unfortunately, but it's theory was sound. Unfortunately, they don't seem to have that page up anymore (I just checked), but the site is http://starmen.net, to give credit where credit is due. The campaign consisted of the following components: 1) a set of times to call: essential. Volume attracts attention. These were over 3 days, so that more people could participate, but it still worked. 2) a notice to avoid mention of connection with an organization. Important, but subtle. If you mention connection with a group, you run the risk of being categorized as a "special interest group" and a general annoyance. Not the way to go. Yeah, they'll get the idea this is an organized effort, but the subtle distinction remains. Finally, and what we may have some trouble with: 3) volume, volume, volume: You don't want any given person to call more than once in the campaign, so you need at least a couple hundred people. This can be addressed later.

In other words, I think some sort of phone call component of the campaign needs to be emphasized more. Disney channel and ABC, the channels which will be experiencing the line-up change, are the main targets. If one asks, for instance, "Is it true that Kim Possible will no longer be airing on this network?" then the answer "Yes, but it will be on Toon Disney" will need a response. A better initial question may involve new episodes. But I've gone on on this one long enough.



One of the things we most need is motivated members. Some ideas have been noted for this, but one of the trickiest (but most effective) has been brought up: A commercial.
There only needs to be one, preferably airing during a premier episode, though those are more expensive, but any slot during any episode of Kim Possible will work. The slot only needs to be 5-10 seconds, just enough to convey the basic information, but this may have to default to whatever the shortest block sold is. The problem here is cost: Commercials cost money, especially during premiers. One sufficient for our purposes could be worked up using various inexpensive computer programs and/or a digital camcorder, so production costs can stay low, but the slot itself can cost quite a lot. Someone with some contacts should at least research this and see if it is within reach. A paypal setup could get, say, a dollar from each member, if that suffices mathematically. That's a low enough amount to be obtainable, but could add up. Problem: The commercial is to get participants, but more participants may be needed in order to get the commercial. A catch 22 if ever I saw one.


One final note, which may be the most important point: As has been quoted elsewhere, "Never give up, never surrender." While a monthly campaigning schedule may prove overly ambitious in the long run, these sort of things can't stop until and unless there is an official announcement of the show's continuation (or its being brought back, if this drags on long enough). That point has been made before, I realize, but it's one that bears repeating.
Author:  Anitrain [ Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:56 pm ]
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rednjguyx wrote:
Anitrain wrote:
I've already gotten two signatures.


Who are the two signatures from Adam Humphrey and Gregory Isaac...lol
:lol:

[hide=Greg&Adam]I hope I spelled the names right.[/hide]


Neither of the two was. And we're up to three now. :)
Author:  Anitrain [ Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SKAT: Observations
Alexander wrote:
1) Digital Domain
a) e-mails: Corporations tend to ignore emails. When they get a lot on one topic, they may take notice, but it's hit-or-miss there.
b) online petition: Online petitions in general get ignored: Pen-and-paper ones are much preferable. However, coordinating these on-line requires fore-planning and time, the latter of which we are short of at the moment. So realize, this won't do much on its own.


We're trying mass emails beacuse we know they won't notice indivdual ones. Also, I've been telling people for years that online petitions don't work - it's refreshing to hear it from someone else. :) We have a real paper petition here: http://savedisneyshows.org/petition/ - it's just that no one's using it - I only have petitions from 6 people (including myself)[/quote]

Alexander wrote:
In other words, I think some sort of phone call component of the campaign needs to be emphasized more.


Agreed.

Alexander wrote:
One of the things we most need is motivated members. Some ideas have been noted for this, but one of the trickiest (but most effective) has been brought up: A commercial.
There only needs to be one, preferably airing during a premier episode, though those are more expensive, but any slot during any episode of Kim Possible will work. The slot only needs to be 5-10 seconds, just enough to convey the basic information, but this may have to default to whatever the shortest block sold is. The problem here is cost: Commercials cost money, especially during premiers. One sufficient for our purposes could be worked up using various inexpensive computer programs and/or a digital camcorder, so production costs can stay low, but the slot itself can cost quite a lot. Someone with some contacts should at least research this and see if it is within reach. A paypal setup could get, say, a dollar from each member, if that suffices mathematically. That's a low enough amount to be obtainable, but could add up. Problem: The commercial is to get participants, but more participants may be needed in order to get the commercial. A catch 22 if ever I saw one.


There is no ad space to buy on Disney channel. It might be possible to get a spot during KP on ABC Kids but there are major funding issues involved. We have 600 members at MKP ond less than half of them took the trouble to send an email last SKP Day. I'd really be shocked if 10% of the email senders would be willing and able to contribute a doller. So we'd make $30 max...
Author:  RiPPy [ Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:42 pm ]
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hmm greg, could i just pm the permission thing or wuld i really have to send a letter to that address?

commercials are really out of hand considering the fact that we really have no budget at all. how can 5-10 seconds cover the facts we need to send out? and i dont think commercials ever air once and thats it, i think you acctually have to make a deal with the station on how many times its shown.

i recommend instead of putting a commerical on a disney owned channel (think about it, would they really want us to put a commercial on their channel stating what they're doing is wrong?) we should put it on 1 of disney's competing channels (like cartoonnetwork or nick)
Author:  Alexander [ Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:58 am ]
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I know, the commercial thing is pretty much impossible. But you could get away with a 10 second commercial: Just a text screen that says the name and mission. Anitrain makes a good point that networks probably only sell in multiple iterations... which would leave local stations (ie, ABC stations), which don't have enough coverage. A pie-in-the-sky idea, but hey, I like pie.

Unfortunately, I can't find any hard evidence to support this claim, but I read once that Disney is known for ignoring petitions. Online petitions are gonna be mostly useless. E-mails might do something... Always worth a shot. Hmm... Now I gotta draft up some letters and e-mails before the 10th. Though I might fax to save money on stamps, even though I have a dislike of faxes.


*Edit* PS: A thought on letters. Lengthy letters through this campaign will tend to re-state the arguements others have already made. Perhaps, at least in the case of letters to the channels/corporations, and maybe for all of the contacts, it should be encouraged that letters be kept short and to-the-point. This makes them more likely to be read. I'll follow my own advice on that, unless someone points out some reason not to that I've missed.
Author:  RiPPy [ Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:03 pm ]
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(well acctually i said the multiple iteration thing)

but, i'm thinking what would it cost to get 10 seconds of airtime on say, Nick (i think it might have more viewers)
Author:  Alexander [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:43 am ]
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Oops, sorry about that. Oh well. Again, probably not an option, but hey, it's still a thought. A spot in that Disney magazine would work as well, but I'm not even sure how many people look at that thing.
Author:  Trollis [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:10 am ]
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Just sending mine email.

MvH Anders "Trollis" Bernhardsson
Author:  rednjguyx [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:05 am ]
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Starts in 10 days...be prepared
Author:  RiPPy [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:40 am ]
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so it seems like it'll be the usual, mass email, ocasional snail mail, rare phone calls.
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